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Post by felliniblank on Jul 24, 2011 19:15:04 GMT -5
Cripes, if all this season's episodes are named after weapons, it could be even more brutal than I expected.
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Post by jeather on Jul 25, 2011 20:32:21 GMT -5
Poor Jesse. He never really wanted to be a rich drug kingpin, and I cannot see any way for things to turn out well for him. (Or for Walt, but I actually want Jesse to turn out ok.)
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Post by shakespeherian on Jul 25, 2011 20:39:31 GMT -5
Yeah I think this was the first episode where I noticed that I'm actively rooting against Walt. If the scene with Mike in the bar had happened two seasons ago, I would have been horrified and scared and worried for Walt-- this time around, I laughed.
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Post by felliniblank on Jul 25, 2011 22:44:11 GMT -5
It was actually sort of sweet (? terrible? something) to see Jesse being Jesse-ish again if only in a vain attempt to drown out the shit in his head. "Totally digital vacuum tube amp." Bless his heart. He's been through an awful lot in, what has it been, 8, 10 months? [Skyler was maybe 6 months pregnant at the beginning and Holly can't be more than 3 or 4 months old now.]
I'm not sure where I stand on Walt right now; I sort of wonder if Gus used to be a Walt, though. Walt may become more tolerable if he comes to embrace what he is a la Gus and Mike and stops with the craven rationalizing.
Meanwhile is Hank collecting MINERALS on a weird quest to determine what makes Blue Sky blue, or is it just senseless trauma fallout?
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Post by shakespeherian on Jul 26, 2011 16:47:37 GMT -5
Yeah we haven't seen much of Hank and Marie at all this season so far, but what's going on with them is easily just as fascinating as the stuff with Walt and Jesse (and possibly even more heartbreaking). I have no idea what's going on with Hank and his minerals-- did this obsession begin recently? I don't think we ever saw him have an interest in minerals before, but maybe we just never saw it, and it's accelerated recently to fill the holes in his life. If it just began, he does seem to have a genuine interest (he rattled all that shit off about the blue one to Marie like he knows what he's talking about). No clue.
The thing about Walt, I think, is that whereas before, when he was in awful situations that were largely his own fault, I didn't know the other characters at all (Tuco, the two guys at the beginning of season one, etc). Gus and Mike are both interesting to me, and I like both of them to some degree, so it's a lot easier during conflict for me to side against Walt-- it is, after all, largely his fault, and his craven rationalizing is pretty laughable. When he told Mike at the bar that Mike couldn't trust Gus because of what happened to Victor, I said out loud, 'Walt, how stupid do you think Mike is?'
I'm pretty sure the show is doing this to me on purpose, too. Apparently the pitch was something along the lines of making a show where the protagonist becomes the antagonist, and I think we can safely say that Walt is on the downward slope of that arc.
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Post by felliniblank on Jul 26, 2011 19:24:58 GMT -5
Yeah we haven't seen much of Hank and Marie at all this season so far, but what's going on with them is easily just as fascinating as the stuff with Walt and Jesse (and possibly even more heartbreaking). That bit where Marie raises and lowers her side of the bed was priceless. Skyler has gotten way more interesting since they started letting her be more than the clueless/termagant wife. I don't know if they'll continue her battle for the $20 million car wash or if that was a one-off to complicate the semi-hostile cease-fire with Walt. The act she did for the locksmith sort of blew my mind.
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Post by freehugs on Jul 27, 2011 11:07:45 GMT -5
I figure the mineral obsession is a replacement for his obsession with blue meth, though not in a conscious way - he'd probably deny any connection.
Maybe we'll eventually have a scene where Walter is being hunted by assassins, and he's trapped at Hank's house, and he's able to cobble together a weapon out of the various minerals in Hank's collection. (explosive? poison gas? a robot?)
Or maybe Hank's new deep familiarity with mineral structures will give him some insight into the processes/conditions used to create Blue Sky. Like if Gomie brings by a bag of evidence to cheer him up.
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Post by mannequito on Jul 29, 2011 2:26:38 GMT -5
Yeah I think this was the first episode where I noticed that I'm actively rooting against Walt. If the scene with Mike in the bar had happened two seasons ago, I would have been horrified and scared and worried for Walt-- this time around, I laughed. For me it was the scene where Walt is crossing the little suburban intersection at night, with the intense suspense music, clutching his gun, his phone rings ... all of it had the reverse effect on me, making me chuckle. It's a trick though, they do it every season in the writing. Especially around episodes 2-4, Walt goes back to being helpless before breaking into bad country later. 1st season was his original cancer crisis, 2nd season he was kidnapped by Tuco and then in the hospital, and last season he was fired from his job and kicked out of the house. Now he's just a clown who's high on his own actions and reputation as a badass.
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Post by mannequito on Jul 29, 2011 2:28:46 GMT -5
One more thing - what's wrong with Mike? He kinda seems like he might be sick with something.
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