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Post by fantasyarchipelago on Jun 18, 2011 13:17:52 GMT -5
The only good reason I've ever heard for someone not liking this show so far is "I don't like Joss Whedon."
Give me another one! FOR SCIENCE.
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Post by PhoBWanKenobi on Jun 18, 2011 13:27:00 GMT -5
The only good reason I've ever heard for someone not liking this show so far is "I don't like Joss Whedon." Give me another one! FOR SCIENCE. Because you're not into Westerns, or space without aliens. (Hi, husband. )
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Post by cortex on Jun 18, 2011 16:51:13 GMT -5
Are you trying to save yourself ten hours or watching, or are you trying to justify your resentment of time already wasted? How I explain to you that you're nuts depends a lot on that.
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Post by fantasyarchipelago on Jun 18, 2011 17:49:06 GMT -5
I think Firefly is the dog's bollocks. I just don't understand not liking it unless one has Joss Whedon hate.
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Post by armyofkittens on Jun 18, 2011 18:05:43 GMT -5
Firefly is the best thing Whedon's done, in part I think because it got culled so early: it never had a chance to get fucked up by running out of ideas or by changes in the actors' circumstances.
I loved Firefly, and a large part of why I did was that it wasn't "modern America IN SPACE" the way most other televised US sci-fi can be. I guess if you're of the "all good sci-fi is allegory" school that's a genuine reason to dislike it.
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Post by emmtee on Jun 18, 2011 18:10:42 GMT -5
THAT IS TOO MANY PLANETS TO BE IN ONE STAR SYSTEM
Okay, I've got nothing.
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Post by emmtee on Jun 18, 2011 18:11:06 GMT -5
ALSO THE GUY THAT PLAYS JAYNE IS A DICK IN REAL LIFE
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Post by PhoBWanKenobi on Jun 18, 2011 18:32:12 GMT -5
I don't want to threadshit (showshit?), but since this looks like open season for it, I don't really like Firefly all that much. I find the Whedon dialogue combined with the western setting weird.
And I don't like space without aliens.
(It gives me existential angst, okay?)
I do like some of the characters--Book, Simon, Kaylee. But Kaylee only because she's Catalina from Space Cases. And not just the same actress. They're kinda the same character, too.
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Post by PhoBWanKenobi on Jun 18, 2011 18:33:17 GMT -5
I don't want to threadshit (showshit?), but since this looks like open season for it, I don't really like Firefly all that much. I find the Whedon dialogue combined with the western setting weird. And I don't like space without aliens. (It gives me existential angst, okay?) I do like some of the characters--Book, Simon, Kaylee. But Kaylee only because she's Catalina from Space Cases. And not just the same actress. They're kinda the same character, too. But also I don't think it's really SF. I think it has more of the narrative markers of westerns than science fiction, and I always go into it craving SPACE!!!!! and feeling unsatisfied.
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Post by fantasyarchipelago on Jun 18, 2011 18:48:44 GMT -5
I loved Firefly, and a large part of why I did was that it wasn't "modern America IN SPACE" the way most other televised US sci-fi can be. I guess if you're of the "all good sci-fi is allegory" school that's a genuine reason to dislike it. I was never able to properly articulate that feeling I had about Firefly, but I think kittens nailed it right there. Firefly is a lot more like what I would call a "Dirty Space Show" than traditional Sci-Fi, but I guess it could be lumped into sci-fi in a very general way. (When I say "Dirty Space" I mean a grimy, non-alien filled world where engines belch smoke and you can't work on an engine without getting filthy. The opposite of something like Star Trek.) After witnessing absolute hordes of alien life in other sci-fi, I find it refreshing to see a scenario where humanity is greeted by a vast emptiness in space. Oh, the loneliness! Emtee - Does this mean Baldwin isn't really "acting", per se? ;D
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Post by We had a deal, Kyle on Jun 18, 2011 19:56:35 GMT -5
Is Serenity a good representation of Firefly? Never saw Firefly, thought Serenity was okay-ish-but-not-great.
And does its cancellation make the series an unsatisfying/frustrating standalone experience for someone coming to it now?
(We're working through The Prisoner at the moment, will be looking for something new and episodic to Netflix after that...)
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Post by fantasyarchipelago on Jun 18, 2011 21:55:17 GMT -5
Honestly, I felt kinda "meh" about Serenity even though I loved Firefly. The fact that it was cancelled just makes you wish you could've had more, IMO.
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Post by maqsarian on Jun 18, 2011 22:05:32 GMT -5
My big regret about Serenity was that I let somebody talk me into watching it before I had seen Firefly. I thought it was pretty meh the first time I saw it too, but I liked it a whole lot more after watching the series.
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Post by fantasyarchipelago on Jun 19, 2011 1:22:16 GMT -5
My big regret about Serenity was that I let somebody talk me into watching it before I had seen Firefly. I thought it was pretty meh the first time I saw it too, but I liked it a whole lot more after watching the series. It seemed slightly underwhelming to me after watching the series. It almost seemed like when the ending to a series is rushed because the series got cancelled.
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Post by maqsarian on Jun 19, 2011 3:28:37 GMT -5
It almost seemed like when the ending to a series is rushed because the series got cancelled. That's interesting; I never really got that feeling from Serenity. I think it had enough of an "And the Adventure Continues" vibe about it that it seemed that they could really easily pick up where they left off, if the movie had convinced some other network to revive the show or whatever. Of course, when I think about rushed finales now, all I can think about is the last episode of Caprica. "Hey guys, we just got cancelled, what are we going to do with these story outlines for the next two seasons?" "We've got five minutes at the end, just cram them in there."
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