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Post by mannequito on Oct 10, 2011 2:17:09 GMT -5
Fuck Yeah Terminator Fring and Bell Bombs!
Gotta wonder though ... where do they go from here? Aside from that last shot showing Walt must have poisoned Brock, there's not much. Gus' posse dead, the Cartel wiped out. All I can think of is Mike is still down in Mexico in the hospital with the doctor who seemed to adore Gus - are they going to come after Walt and Jesse now?
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Post by FelliniBlank on Oct 10, 2011 9:08:58 GMT -5
Face OFF, alright, ugh. The Gusinator! Gawd, did Gilligan have the final use for Tio Hector's malevolent little bell in mind all along? Speaking of which, the "S -- U -- C -- K etc." scene at the DEA was a thing of beauty.
I should think the last season will be Walt vs. law enforcement. It's going to be pretty clear now that Hank's theories were right. Gus and Tio die in a suicide bombing? The suspicious laundry has a massive chemical fire? Heisenberg might as well have sent an engraved party invitation to the DEA and FBI.
Because I am a fucking idiot and forgot that they always extend these finales, my DVR didn't get the last 10-12 minutes, so I won't be able to see it until Thu when they re-run it, but I've pieced it together from accounts here and there. Gus's spidey moment in the parking lot makes a whole lot more sense now that it's clear what exactly he learned from his conversation with Jesse. Man, when you can outmaneuver Gus, you have really arrived.
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Post by uncleira on Oct 10, 2011 10:40:37 GMT -5
So my question is, what really happened to the missing Ricin Cigarette?
I imagine Jesse will start wondering the same thing at the beginning of the next season.
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Post by jeather on Oct 10, 2011 10:54:42 GMT -5
I figured out when Walt visited Tio Salamanca that he would use his little bell, but it took me until the end of the meeting with the DEA before I had a clue why he was meeting Hank. And then when Gus just fucking walked out of the room? Followed, of course, by us understanding the title of this episode. Ew.
It's pretty clear how Gus clued in to Jesse now, and I think the Brock reveal makes sense but I'm not sure I would have entirely believed it if we hadn't seen the clue with Becky. But wow, is Walt ever repellent now. I know he hoped that Brock and Becky wouldn't die, but he was willing to risk them. And poor Jesse, who even feels guilty about his plan, however little he ended up involved in it, to kill Gus, who probably deserved it. (Not that Walt deserves it any less.)
Now that Skyler cannot even start to fool herself anymore ("I win"? he has no idea how he comes off), I am curious what she will do. Walt and Jesse are going to have to fill the void left by the ending of the two biggest cartels somehow. Hank isn't going to just assume that paralysed old Hector Salamanca was faking it and built a bomb, especially when the laundry/meth kitchen just burned up too, so although he will know he was right about Gus, he also has to know there is someone else who set this whole thing up, and I think he'll decide that person must be Heisenberg. (He will, of course, be correct, but it will kill him to find out it's been Walt all along. And he has to find this out eventually.)
Also left open is when Jesse will find out about Brock and Jane, and how Walt Jr will deal with finding out his father is less amazing than he thought. And Mike, recovering there in Mexico. I am glad Mike survived. I am glad Saul survived. And I am especially glad Saul's assistant survived and blackmailed Walt for 25k.
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Post by FelliniBlank on Oct 10, 2011 14:04:21 GMT -5
So my question is, what really happened to the missing Ricin Cigarette? I imagine Jesse will start wondering the same thing at the beginning of the next season. The two explanations I've seen are: a) On Walt/Saul's orders, Hewell substituted a non-ricin-containing cigarette pack when he frisked Jesse in Ep. 12. or b) Walt himself took the ricin cigarette and destroyed it back a few episodes when he bummed a cigarette from Jesse and stomped it out after a couple of puffs. That would have been just as a sign that he no longer trusted Jesse to fulfill his promise to kill Gus, not as a part of Operation Brock since obviously Walt hadn't planned that yet. If he put in a regular cigarette filter-end down, it would have looked like the ricin one, and Jesse would have moved it from pack to pack obliviously. Or something. I'm not sure there's a satisfactory explanation. There should be some stellar Jesse vs. Walt and Walt vs. Hank, well, I won't use the term "face-offs" (ever again, probably) confrontations next season.
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Post by FelliniBlank on Oct 10, 2011 16:07:02 GMT -5
Oh, you knew someone would GIFify Gus. The single best circulating comment about the episode: "Well, they blew up the chicken man in Albuquerque last night; now they blew up his henchman too."
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Post by shakespeherian on Oct 11, 2011 8:33:31 GMT -5
Apparently Gilligan has confirmed that Huell lifted the ricin cigarette from Jesse.
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Post by FelliniBlank on Oct 11, 2011 12:47:18 GMT -5
Apparently Gilligan has confirmed that Huell lifted the ricin cigarette from Jesse. "Are you an expert pickpocket, Huell?" "Reasonably." That interview with Gilligan filled in several blanks.
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Post by shakespeherian on Oct 11, 2011 13:32:47 GMT -5
Also can I mention how I'm still reeling from the revelation that Gus was Buggin' Out in Do the Right Thing?
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Post by FelliniBlank on Oct 11, 2011 20:47:55 GMT -5
He was also Yaphet Kotto's son on Homicide: Life on the Street. Boy am I old.
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Post by mannequito on Oct 12, 2011 2:17:04 GMT -5
One of the comments on the article linked on MeFi brought up a new idea I hadn't considered - Ze German Consortium. As they tore down the lab, all the barrels Jesse was axing through had the bee logo on it. Honeybee lawyers could come knocking on Walt's car wash door next year, telling him he better start cooking.
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Post by shakespeherian on Oct 12, 2011 11:04:38 GMT -5
On the other hand the plan, from what I've read, has always been to get Walt White to eventually become Scarface, so it's possible that the only real showdown left is with the law.
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Post by Ms Harriet Vane on Oct 14, 2011 3:48:51 GMT -5
I'm going to have to watch Scarface now.
I've only been catching up with all of Breaking Bad over the last few months, and surprisingly managed to avoid any major spoilers. I'm so glad, because this show is all about the tension.
For the last season, I'm thinking it all comes back to family: how will Skyler react now that she fully realises how dangerous Walt is? Will we find out how a hotshot chemist ended up in a dead-end surburban life? How will Hank react when he figures out Heisenberg is Walt (I just can't imagine the show ending without Hank piecing it together)? Will Walt get the idea that some members of his family are just as disposable as Brock and Jane?
And most importantly: how long can Walt refrain from bragging/taking credit for Brock and Jane's deaths, in a way that gets back to Jesse? He can't stand anyone thinking that he's not man enough or clever enough to do what he does. Maybe he'll blurt it out to Mike, and Mike will tell Jesse.
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Post by freehugs on Oct 15, 2011 0:59:42 GMT -5
Maybe Hank finds out about Walt, and they have some kind of interesting showdown, and the show ends with Walt killing Hank before he can tell anyone.
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Post by freehugs on Oct 23, 2011 19:17:38 GMT -5
I just rewatched Season 1, and I have to say that it's even better after seeing Season 4. I'm quite amazed at how similar some of the scenes and situations are to later events in seasons 3 and 4. They've done a great job of obsessively developing certain themes in a very organic fashion.
Also: The first reveal of the creepy pink teddy bear, at 01:08 in S02E01, is almost exactly like the reveal of Gus's fatal injuries.
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