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Post by PhoBWanKenobi on Jun 17, 2011 9:58:38 GMT -5
Since I started this board in a large part in response to our never-ending spoiler arguments, I want your thoughts here on when it is, and is not, appropriate to use spoilers. With threads for new shows, my instinct is that any obvious spoilers are bad news (so, like, if you read casting spoilers on some site, you'd better mark those up), but what about for shows that just aired in one region, or old shows (like, say, Life on Mars) that hinge on a major twist?
I'm fine with a general, "Be kind to each other about this stuff" policy, but I also am a recovering spoilerholic. It's only in the last few years that I don't actively spoil myself on everything, so I thought it'd be a good idea to hear the input of people who are spoilerphobic.
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Post by armyofkittens on Jun 17, 2011 14:00:19 GMT -5
I'd be inclined to steal a page from tvwop's book, and run spoilers at the pace of the "home region" of the show. Mark the home region in the title of the OT and maybe if there are enough overseas fans you can have a second thread for them. General threads mark current episode stuff in spoilers until all major regions have had their showing.
Examples:
Doctor Who - [UK OT] Spoilers and speculation for upcoming episodes!
Doctor Who - [US pace] Spoilers and speculation for upcoming episodes!
Doctor Who - [All] General discussion
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Post by PhoBWanKenobi on Jun 17, 2011 21:19:52 GMT -5
I'd be inclined to steal a page from tvwop's book, and run spoilers at the pace of the "home region" of the show. Mark the home region in the title of the OT and maybe if there are enough overseas fans you can have a second thread for them. General threads mark current episode stuff in spoilers until all major regions have had their showing. Examples: Doctor Who - [UK OT] Spoilers and speculation for upcoming episodes! Doctor Who - [US pace] Spoilers and speculation for upcoming episodes! Doctor Who - [All] General discussion Sounds good for DW! Should we take that approach with all shows? |
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Post by We had a deal, Kyle on Jun 17, 2011 23:11:35 GMT -5
Also: should threads about older episodes remain free of spoilers for later episodes?
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Post by griphus on Jun 18, 2011 14:20:08 GMT -5
This will probably take more moderation than it should for a casual board, but if something DOES get spoiled, can the thread title be updated for it?
Because I swear if anyone ruins Buffy for me I'm showing up at their house with a bunch of sodium pentothal and the last episode of every show they've ever wanted to see.
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Post by PhoBWanKenobi on Jun 18, 2011 14:25:11 GMT -5
This will probably take more moderation than it should for a casual board, but if something DOES get spoiled, can the thread title be updated for it? Because I swear if anyone ruins Buffy for me I'm showing up at their house with a bunch of sodium pentothal and the last episode of every show they've ever wanted to see. jtron (who has graciously agreed to mod with me) and I can always alter posts that let spoilers slip so that stuff is hidden in spoiler tags. But I guess that's part of the conflict here--what obligation do we have to hide older media from being spoiled? Do we use spoiler tags on every big plot twist, or only for shows that are currently airing? How hard is it to use spoiler tags for everything/how much does it interfere with reading and so on and so forth. My thought is that if you, as someone who is rewatching Buffy (say) wants to discuss an aspect of the show, it makes sense to post in the subject line that you'd like a thread to stay free of unmarked spoilers. But I'm not sure. This is new territory for me, so I'm happy to consider all options. (I have some work related stuff I need to work on today--and, uh, a novel I'm supposed to be revising--but I plan on looking into how these issues are handled on other communities later tonight.) |
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Post by Ms Harriet Vane on Jun 19, 2011 8:17:42 GMT -5
I'm quite liking the episode by episode frame of the Doctor Who and GoT sub-forums, assuming that anything up to and including that episode is fair game. I can read up to the episode I've seen, even if it's not aired in my country yet, or if I get behind on torrenting. It'd probably work best if the thread titles are given S01E01 prefixes, I guess? Not all shows put the titles prominently in the opening credits.
Or does that leave us with too damn many threads after a while?
I like the idea that if you start a thread about a multi-episode issue, you can specify in the title or the opening post what kind of spoilers you're ok with in response to your topic.
As long as the spoilers are clearly indicated on a thread-by-thread basis, I don't mind too much about in-thread stuff that's on-topic. If I was going to discuss how the latest Breaking Bad episode is clearly a reference to the second season finale of Buffy, in a BBad thread, I'd think that should be done using the spoiler tags because it's not something a Breaking Bad fan could reasonably anticipate.
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Post by PhoBWanKenobi on Jun 19, 2011 10:55:03 GMT -5
I'm quite liking the episode by episode frame of the Doctor Who and GoT sub-forums, assuming that anything up to and including that episode is fair game. I can read up to the episode I've seen, even if it's not aired in my country yet, or if I get behind on torrenting. It'd probably work best if the thread titles are given S01E01 prefixes, I guess? Not all shows put the titles prominently in the opening credits. Or does that leave us with too damn many threads after a while? I like the idea that if you start a thread about a multi-episode issue, you can specify in the title or the opening post what kind of spoilers you're ok with in response to your topic. As long as the spoilers are clearly indicated on a thread-by-thread basis, I don't mind too much about in-thread stuff that's on-topic. If I was going to discuss how the latest Breaking Bad episode is clearly a reference to the second season finale of Buffy, in a BBad thread, I'd think that should be done using the spoiler tags because it's not something a Breaking Bad fan could reasonably anticipate. I'm thinking that might be the best way to handle it. I don't anticipate that "too many threads" would be a problem--it's not like they're a limited resource.  |
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Post by PhoBWanKenobi on Jun 19, 2011 18:03:52 GMT -5
Two more suggestions, wanna know what you all think:
-speculation does not have to be spoiler marked
-movies only need to be spoiler marked during their initial theater run
If this all works for you guys, I'll type something up and sticky it.
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Post by We had a deal, Kyle on Jun 19, 2011 18:56:57 GMT -5
-speculation does not have to be spoiler marked OK, with a caveat that often speculation is informed by spoilers -- in which case the spoileriffic bits would still need to be marked. For example, speculating about next series of Doctor Who based on broadcast storylines: not spoilery. Further speculation fueled by rumors about cast members' other commitments : spoilery. I think mostly it's common sense, but speculation can get to be a bit of a murky "well we all know <spoilery thing> so let's take that as a given" gray area. (ooo look at me I just used my first spoiler tag) |
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Post by Ms Harriet Vane on Jun 20, 2011 6:42:10 GMT -5
Yeah, speculation is a grey area. It depends a lot on what the speculation is based on. I wonder what the more successful sites do about it? I'm actually quite happy to steal someone else's policy until we refine it to our own tastes, but I'm also one of those theiving downloaders so I would say that  |
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Post by PhoBWanKenobi on Jun 20, 2011 15:28:07 GMT -5
Yeah, speculation is a grey area. It depends a lot on what the speculation is based on. I wonder what the more successful sites do about it? I'm actually quite happy to steal someone else's policy until we refine it to our own tastes, but I'm also one of those theiving downloaders so I would say that Here's TWOP's take: forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showtopic=3170755 |
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